Fake TPE Dolls, Copies & How to Avoid Scams

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A GUIDE TO FAKE TPE DOLLS - HOW NOT TO GET SCAMMED

The TPE Doll industry has grown in popularity over the last couple of years, and has become quite a headaches for new buyer looking to buy a genuine authentic product.

This guide aims at teaching every new buyer what they need to know in order to avoid being scammed, in an industry that has a cruel lack of higher authority or any regulations.


BACKGROUND

99% of TPE dolls are manufactured in China and this has a downside: China makes little efforts to enforce counterfeiting laws, and that is even more true when it comes to products meant to be sold outside of its territory.

There is an old saying in China: “If you haven’t yet been copied, it means your product or business model isn’t successful”. Absolutely every product or brand you could think of has its equivalent copy. From makeup to luxury goods, toys and guess what even alcohol…

Long gone are the days where you simply had a fake looking version of a given product, any copy comes with different grades of realism nowadays with different price thresholds.

Let’s take the example of alcohol, you have 3 grades of fake spirits. Grade A, grade B and grade C. All grades tastes bad in comparison to a real given brand, but grade C will make you much sicker than a grade A copy.

For TPE Dolls this is the same thing. You have different level of realism in copies at different tarification thresholds. Where some are priced slightly higher (yet cheaper than the authentic main TPE Dolls brands) and more realistic than others. But realism is not the only concern: Some of these fake dolls are not just toxic but clearly carcinogen.

You might have heard the saying before “You get what you paid for.” When it comes to sex dolls or sex toys in general, this is particularly true.


ARE FAKE DOLLS TOXIC? WORST THAN THAT

Thermoplastics come in dozens of different forms and composition depending on their application. Not all thermoplastic elastomer are born equal, and not all TPE blends are suitable for the particular application of sex toys. Unfortunately this is the kind of compliance sex dolls copies worry much about.

Sex toys require food & medical grade TPE, which is the highest quality available. The medical industry for example requires safe and halogen-free polymers, also known as styrenic block copolymers (SBCs). Applications are usually for medical tubes and pouches, orthopaedic gels, dental guards, etc…Food grade TPEs are used for food-contact applications, such as soft spoons for babies, sealing rings, or liners in bottle caps (Coca Cola bottles for example).

But just like with plastics you have different grades and quality suitable for different usages. When our manufacturing partners are compliant to the highest safety and hygiene standards, making only medical & food grade TPE, not all TPE are considered food grade or medical grade ones. Some are clearly toxic and even carcinogens. Let’s see the different qualities of TPE below and their composition:

LOW COST THERMOPLASTIC ELASTOMERS

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LOW COST TPE COMPOSITION

Low cost thermoplastic elastomers do not qualify for medical or food application and therefore neither sex toys. This is what the cheapest TPE Dolls are made of. The composition include the following materials so you might want to think twice before getting a cheap TPE doll copy:

  • POLYVINYL CHLORIDE (PVC): Containing dangerous chemical additives including phthalates, lead, cadmium and/or organotins.
  • STYRENE ACRYLONITRILE (SAN): Classified as a Class 2B carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).
  • POLYSTYRENE (PS): Containing Styrene and Benzene, suspected carcinogens and neurotoxins that are hazardous to humans.
  • POLY METHYL METHACRYLATE (PMMA): Suspected to be carcinogen, causing allergic reactions, immunotoxicity and organ system toxicity.
  • ACRYLONITRILE BUTADIENE STYRENE (ABS): A petroleum based plastic, the only non-toxic one of this list.
  • STYRENE MALEIC ANHYDRIDE (SMA): Known irritant to humans. Severe skin burns and itching have been reported following dermal contact. Can cause conjunctivitis, inflammation and swelling of eyelids, severe lacrimation and photophobia.

Having doubts? Simply make a Google research with the name of the component above + “toxicity”

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MEDIUM COST THERMOPLASTIC ELASTOMERS

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MEDIUM COST THERMOPLASTIC ELASTOMERS

Although much less toxic than low cost TPE, medium cost thermoplastic Elastomers remain hazardous and do not qualify either for sex toys. Known to cause irritations their toxicity depends on the type of ingredients used.

Just like low cost TPE medium cost thermoplastic elastomers do contain PVC, Bisphenol A, Latex and phthalates. Let’s break down their product composition below:

  • POLYPHENYLENE OXIDE (PPO): No toxicity observed
  • POLYCARBONATE (PC): Certain types of polycarbonates could be hazardous in oral contact situations due to the release of bisphenol A (BPA) during hydrolysis (degradation due to material contact with water). Although being under scrutiny, this material is considered relatively safe, but it depends on the type of polycarbonate being used, making it hazardous for sex toys application.
  • POLYPROPYLENE CARBONATE (PPC): Causes moderated skin irritation, as well as irritations to eyes and respiratory system.
  • POLYTETRAFLUOROETHYLENE (PFTE): Dangerous when heated, but relatively safe otherwise, although linked to Alzheimer disease as it contains aluminum.

Having doubts? Simply make a Google research with the name of the component above + “toxicity”

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HIGH COST THERMOPLASTIC ELASTOMERS

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HIGH COST THERMOPLASTIC ELASTOMERS

High cost TPE also known as food grade or medical grade thermoplastic elastomers are the safest kind, and are free of PVC, phthalate plasticizers, Bisphenol A or latex. Let’s break down their product composition below:

  • POLYARYLATE (PAR): No toxicity observed
  • POLYETHERSULFONE (PES): No toxicity observed
  • POLYETHER IMIDE (PEI): No toxicity observed, flame, smoke & fully toxicity compliant material
  • POLYPHENYLSULFONE (PPSU): No toxicity observed (used to make baby bottles)
  • THERMOPLASTIC POLYIMIDE (TPI): No toxicity, doesn’t contain any reactive chemicals
  • POLYAMIDE IMIDE (PAI): No toxicity observed

Having doubts? Simply make a Google research with the name of the component above + “toxicity”

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FAKE & CHEAP TPE DOLLS VS REAL TPE DOLLS

Not only are fake TPE Dolls toxic and hazardous to your health, not to say carcinogen, these cheap TPE blends are also much more vulnerable to abrasions, heat, stretch. As the old saying says “buying cheaper always cost more on the long run”. When buying a fake doll, don’t expect your babe to last longer than a few weeks or months if you are lucky

LOW COST TPE DISADVANTAGES

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LOW COST TPE DISADVANTAGES

Aside from the poor realism in comparison to real models, as well as the toxicity of the components being used, fake TPE has properties nowhere near what high quality TPE brings you:

  • Durability: Your doll skin will very quickly tear open, with a very poor abrasion resistance and a low thickness
  • Resilience: Inferior quality TPE will not have a high resilience. Meaning that your doll will lose her shape quickly (for example sacking breasts or flatten butt)
  • Heat resistance: Bad TPE do not support heat well and will melt if the temperature gets too hot (for example during summer) thus also increasing its already high toxicity.
  • Elasticity: Low cost TPE has a bad elasticity and does not come back to its initial shape like as well as higher grade TPE do.
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BAD QUALITY SKELETONS

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BAD QUALITY SKELETONS

TPE Dolls copies or low cost brands have a cheaper version of what authentic TPE doll brands use, with limited movement ranges.

These low quality skeletons are prompt to corrosion (adding more to toxicity, like if it wasn’t enough already), will rust very quickly and are made of cheap metals that will break in no time during manipulation.

Be careful with a broken skeleton. Metal poles can then easily pierce through the skin and hurt you. You do not want to be stabbed by your sex doll, kinda lame isn’t it?

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HOW TO SPOT FAKE TPE DOLLS

As the TPE Doll industry is growing older and totally regulation free, scammers have free rein to come up with ever more elaborated techniques to trick newcomers into buying a fake copy. It takes quite some experience to spot fake shops. As a rule of thumb, keep in mind that you have at least 3 fake vendors for every legit one. Let us teach you how to easily spot them below:

RED FLAG #1: THE PRICE

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RED FLAG #1: THE PRICE

The cost of the doll, although not always the only way to tell, is usually one of the main giveaway. As we stated above and as per the old adage, you get what you paid for. The TPE Dolls market lacks of regulations but that does not mean that distribution is not organized correctly.

Don’t think you can outsmart distribution especially as a new buyer, you won’t. As a matter of fact, this is the easiest way to get scammed: Looking for the cheapest price possible thinking you are getting yourself a hell of a deal.

Different quality of TPE come with different price ranges. Some vendors selling authentic models have been around for years and there is a reason for these prices to all be pretty close to one another (including us). The non-exhaustive list below shows you some of the main vendors in this industry:

  • Fine Love Dolls (That’s us!)
  • Real Love Sex Dolls
  • Sexy Real Sex Dolls
  • Sexy Sex Dolls
  • Silver Doll
  • Silicone Wives
  • Dolls France

Whoever is cheaper than these main sellers by several hundreds of dollars must leave you skeptical. Especially when the price is half of what we propose. That can only mean one thing: It is either a scam or a cheap copy model.

A good way to make sure who you are buying from is to make a quick search on the main sex dolls community website, DollForum. Search for the vendor’s name in the search bar and what people are saying about them. If no one mentions a given shop, do not buy from it.

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RED FLAG #2 MARKETPLACES

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RED FLAG #2 MARKETPLACES

We will never stress this one enough: Do not ever buy a sex doll from a marketplace such as:

  • AliExpress
  • Ebay
  • Amazon
  • Other B2B or B2C marketplaces

The reason is quite simple. Marketplaces make it so easy for scammers to get away with it and start again an infinite number of times. Countless histories of people trying to buy a doll and having been scammed are available online.

There are several scamming techniques done on these platforms. Some will simply and purely take your money and run away, other will send a product different from what is being advertised (using real product pictures to sell copies or blowup dolls).

Generally these scammers either hide between implicit store terms & conditions, or exploit a given marketplace dispute system to get away with it. These marketplaces are too big to enforce the authenticity of every single of their vendors.

What we often hear of is the merchant proposing a partial refund in best case scenarios. At the end of the day you are still being scammed and haven’t received the product you were expecting to receive.

Additionally, these marketplaces have a strict policy on adult products too and it isn’t that easy to get a refund once you have been scammed.

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RED FLAG #3: POOR ENGLISH

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RED FLAG #3: POOR ENGLISH

And we aren’t talking about typing mistakes here which can happen to the best of us. We are talking about Chinglish, poorly written English content with a lot of mistakes which is generally typical of scammers.

Let us be clear that you may find a genuine vendor selling authentic dolls that isn’t proficient in a language that isn’t his mother tongue. That being said, and for the sake of communication, we recommend that you shy away from these, to make sure that your order isn’t being heard through the grapevine.

This will avoid your order being forwarded to production without any misunderstanding(s) or bad surprises (This given vendor sells copies for example, he told you so!)

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RED FLAG #4: NO SSL CERTIFICATE

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RED FLAG #4: NO SSL CERTIFICATE

You probably heard this one before, but let us repeat it. Not everyone being tech savvy. Regardless if you are buying a sex doll or any other product online, one should NEVER buy from a website that does not have a valid SSL certificate.

A SSL certificate is the little lock icon that you see in your browser search bar when navigating on a given website. You can click on this icon to see the details of the certificate. Additionally, all URLs you are accessing should start with “HTTPS” and never with just “HTTP”. This ensures your data are secured.

SSL certificates are small data files that encrypt and protect sensitive information sent across the internet, so that only the intended reciption can access it. (For example your credit card information)

As a result, if you see a vendor that does not have one, this is a major reason to close the page and find a more secure merchant. Nowadays most browsers will enforce SSL and send you a warning if the page that you are trying to access is not secure (for example Google Chrome), but not all browser do so always pay attention to that detail before buying anything online.

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RED FLAG #5: LACK OF INFORMATION

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RED FLAG #5: LACK OF INFORMATION

Scammers aren’t only operating on marketplaces. Building a website nowadays can be done quite quickly especially if you are just copying content from a template.

A good giveaway is usually websites that are built hastily without much content or pages available. Another quick way to find out is the domain age, or when a given website address was registered, if it is recent this should leave you skeptical. To find how long a website has been operating, you can enter its URL in this tool.

Why longevity matters? Scammers usually won’t be able to operate for a long period of times. This is because the payment platforms that they connect to their websites (for example PayPal or Stripe) will shut them down if to many chargebacks on orders are to occur and if they are spotted as alleged scammers.

Fine Love Dolls uses these 2 payment gateway systems, which are the main ones. If a vendor do not use PayPal and only propose a small payment gateway, this should leave you skeptical as he might be switching to different payment gateway providers on a regular basis (there are a lot of smaller ones).

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RED FLAG #6: PREVIOUS ORDER PICTURES

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RED FLAG #6: PREVIOUS ORDER PICTURES

This is an easy one if you know what to look for, but be careful: Scammers use real previous orders pictures too.

The sneakiest ones will display a mix of both real and fake order pictures so a good way to tell if you aren’t sure what a given doll looks like once produced is to look at the background of that picture.

WM Doll, YL Doll & OR Doll for example, are all produced by the same factory. The background is always the same: White walls, large premises and a GREEN FLOOR. Just like on our pictures down below. Notice how authentic models always have the same floor on pictures.

This is not true for all copies, but the most notorious factory making fake dolls always use the same brown wood bench with a white wall right behind. This is a major giveaway that means you are seeing a copy of an original model, as per below:

real authentic tpe dolls vs fake tpe dollsreal sex dolls vs fake sex dollssex dolls scams beware of fake vendors

Some of these copies look quite realistic or close to the authentic models sometimes, but don’t get fooled. These are made of inferior quality and harmful materials.

A common technique that we are seeing more and more often from scammers is a mix of real and fake order pictures so that some buyers don’t even realized that they have been fooled into buying a fake doll. Scammers will post both on their social media accounts or website to have you believe this is what authentic dolls actually look like. Quite smart ain’t it?

Another technique consists of posting photoshopped photoshootings of these fake dolls alongside authentic pictures, let us give you an example below:

The naked model on the left (at least the head) is actually a copy of the original model lying on the bed on the right. Both look pretty close right? But don’t get fooled we are talking about 2 totally different levels of TPE quality.

BUT HOW DO I KNOW WHICH MODEL IS AUTHENTIC THEN?

Check on the main vendors list above. If a given photo shooting such as the one above is not listed on the main vendors websites, you can be sure that it is a copy. Not only WM Doll is being copied, so is JY Doll and a lot of other top quality brands leading the market. If you are having a doubt never hesitate to ask us!

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RED FLAG #7: CUSTOMER REVIEWS

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RED FLAG #7: CUSTOMER REVIEWS

Reviews are quite easy to fake so this alone isn’t enough to determine whether a vendor is or not legitimate. It is however a good indicator, especially off site of who you are dealing with.

Doll Forum is a good way to find out about previous customers of a given seller. You can also check whether a given website has a review page available, but take the time to actually read to reviews to see if they seem legit or not.

Let’s face it, unless incentivize most customers won’t bother leaving one. Only the one truly looking to share their experiences will and will generally do so in a rigorous and informative manner. With that in mind you should easily be able to spot generic or fake reviews.

A counter example is that a lot of legit vendors from the above have the bad habit to boost their number of reviews by writing fake ones, a practice that we do not agree with.

Fine Love Dolls does not have a lot of reviews, yet we count among the main distributor of the TPE Doll industry, achieving large volumes. You can be sure that every single one of our reviews is 100% real, from thoughtful customers who kindly took the time to write about their experience.

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RED FLAG #8: NO CERTIFICATION CODE

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RED FLAG #8: NO CERTIFICATION CODE

In 2020, WM Doll, YL Doll, OR Doll & SE Doll brands have setup an anti-fake certification system. If you purchase one of these brands model(s) from Fine Love Dolls, your package will include an authentication number.

If your doll is from one of the above brand, and does not have a valid certification code, it is a copy.

At reception of your doll, please visit WM Doll or SE Doll anti-fake page, and enter your code into the field to confirm your doll authenticity:

VERIFY A WM | YL | OR DOLL MODEL

VERIFY A SE DOLL MODEL

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FAKE REVIEW WEBSITES

Scammers do their best to look legit. To do so they created a whole ecosystem of fake review websites to make you believe you are actually buying from a legitimate vendor when you are in fact not.

A good example is the following website, who once tried to become one of our affiliate. We refused, as they were promoting fake vendors and manipulating buyers into thinking these were real. Beware of such fraud, and always refer back to the Doll Forum to double check whatever you might have read elsewhere.

You can read more about the “REAL SEX DOLLS REVIEWS” website fraud on this thread from the Doll Forum. Additionally, here is the below testimonial from a previous buyers who was tricked by them into buying from one of their fake affiliates:

Below is the kind of manipulation technique that can be found on their homepage:

“UPDATE! Ready to SAVE Some Money on Sex Dolls?

We have found three companies in China that sell the exact same sex dolls, except it’s directly from the manufacturer! The sex dolls that are sold for $2,000 are available for $500! We placed a few orders and have found them to be legit! These are the same, exact dolls, without the American middle-man jacking up the price! The best part is, the shipping time is the same (about two weeks) because it uses Ali Express for shipping! The best, best, best part? You actually have a REAL return policy and buyer protection since it’s Ali Express! If you don’t like what you’ve received, you can and will get all your money back – directly from Ali Express! These American companies do NOT offer this, as they assume you have used the doll for… well… you know!”

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